Jeff Hiller
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Posted:
4 years ago
29.03.2021, 11:44 GMT-4
Hi John,
There actually is a geometry tool to create a parametric curve in COMSOL, and it's called "Parametric Curve"! You can then sweep a shape (say, a disc, if that's what the cross section of your wire should be) along that parametric curve to create a solid, should you need to.
Best,
Jeff
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Jeff Hiller
Hi John,
There actually is a geometry tool to create a parametric curve in COMSOL, and it's called "Parametric Curve"! You can then sweep a shape (say, a disc, if that's what the cross section of your wire should be) along that parametric curve to create a solid, should you need to.
Best,
Jeff
Edgar J. Kaiser
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Posted:
4 years ago
29.03.2021, 14:44 GMT-4
Another option may be to add a second torus around the core and use it as a coil domain. For the geometry analysis you need a cross section of this outer torus and define it as input. This should result in a ring current in the coil domain. Should be a good approximation to an explicit helical winding.
Cheers
Edgar
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Edgar J. Kaiser
emPhys Physical Technology
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Another option may be to add a second torus around the core and use it as a coil domain. For the geometry analysis you need a cross section of this outer torus and define it as input. This should result in a ring current in the coil domain. Should be a good approximation to an explicit helical winding.
Cheers
Edgar
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Posted:
4 years ago
06.04.2021, 22:05 GMT-4
Jeff Hiller
Hi Jeff,
Thank you for your helpful answer. I have tried that and it does indeed form a toroidal solenoid, but only when the curve is open. I want to model a closed wire so that I can send a current through it.
As far as I can tell, my options here are to model leads that touch my air bounds or model a closed coil and model excitations from the cross-sectional faces. I am unable to extrude the ends of the coil to the face of the air boundary and mesh successfully--it gives me an error about an empty cavity being generated. (I believe the connection is not orthogonal; but I don't know how to make it so.) On the other hand, I am unable to form a closed coil via sweeping along the closed parametric curve, as COMSOL tells me that edges "must form a non-closed chain."
How can I resolve this issue? Would it be possible to sweep along an open parametric curve and then connect the ends? If so, how?
Thank you again for your help. It is greatly appreciated.
>Jeff Hiller
>
Hi Jeff,
Thank you for your helpful answer. I have tried that and it does indeed form a toroidal solenoid, but only when the curve is open. I want to model a closed wire so that I can send a current through it.
As far as I can tell, my options here are to model leads that touch my air bounds or model a closed coil and model excitations from the cross-sectional faces. I am unable to extrude the ends of the coil to the face of the air boundary and mesh successfully--it gives me an error about an empty cavity being generated. (I believe the connection is not orthogonal; but I don't know how to make it so.) On the other hand, I am unable to form a closed coil via sweeping along the closed parametric curve, as COMSOL tells me that edges "must form a non-closed chain."
How can I resolve this issue? Would it be possible to sweep along an open parametric curve and then connect the ends? If so, how?
Thank you again for your help. It is greatly appreciated.
Jeff Hiller
COMSOL Employee
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Posted:
4 years ago
07.04.2021, 08:56 GMT-4
Hi John,
You can sweep a cross section along a series of curves, so it's just a matter of creating the curves you need using the various curve-drawing tools (could be straight segments, parametric curves, arcs of circles, etc). If you have the Design Module on your license (You can check on that through the menu File > Licensed and Used Products), you could also employ the loft command to connect two faces of your currently-open shape to close it.
If those tips are not enough to get you there, I would encourage you to contact COMSOL support through www.comsol.com/support/ : they'd be able to give you more specific ideas based on your work so far and with knowledge of what license components your license includes.
Best regards,
Jeff
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Jeff Hiller
Hi John,
You can sweep a cross section along a series of curves, so it's just a matter of creating the curves you need using the various curve-drawing tools (could be straight segments, parametric curves, arcs of circles, etc). If you have the Design Module on your license (You can check on that through the menu File > Licensed and Used Products), you could also employ the loft command to connect two faces of your currently-open shape to close it.
If those tips are not enough to get you there, I would encourage you to contact COMSOL support through www.comsol.com/support/ : they'd be able to give you more specific ideas based on your work so far and with knowledge of what license components your license includes.
Best regards,
Jeff