Henrik Sönnerlind
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Posted:
10 years ago
12.01.2015, 04:31 GMT-5
Hi,
In order to get any prestress effects, you must enable geometric nonlinearity in the second study step.
Using the new piezoelectic coupling feature available in version 5.0 will make this type of modeling significantly easier. You will then have access to the predefined study type 'Prestressed Analysis, Frequency Domain'. You will also have access to 'Harmonic Perturbation' settings for loads and boundary conditions both for mechanical and electrical features.
Regards,
Henrik
Hi,
In order to get any prestress effects, you must enable geometric nonlinearity in the second study step.
Using the new piezoelectic coupling feature available in version 5.0 will make this type of modeling significantly easier. You will then have access to the predefined study type 'Prestressed Analysis, Frequency Domain'. You will also have access to 'Harmonic Perturbation' settings for loads and boundary conditions both for mechanical and electrical features.
Regards,
Henrik
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Posted:
10 years ago
12.01.2015, 04:51 GMT-5
Hi Henrik,
Thank you for your valuable feedback.
I will try to install the 5th release of COMSOL.
It is "impossible" or just "complicated" to do this kind of piezoelectric study with Comsol 4.4 ?
Thank you,
Hi Henrik,
Thank you for your valuable feedback.
I will try to install the 5th release of COMSOL.
It is "impossible" or just "complicated" to do this kind of piezoelectric study with Comsol 4.4 ?
Thank you,
Henrik Sönnerlind
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Posted:
10 years ago
12.01.2015, 05:48 GMT-5
Hi Laurent,
You can do the analysis in version 4.4 too. It is just that you are a bit more on your own in setting up the analysis.
Essentially there are three things that you should pay attention to:
1. Enable geometric nonlinearity in at least the frequency domain analysis
2. Manually add the linper() operator to the harmonic perturbation loads (I guess that wold be the electric potential in your case).
3. Set up the frequency domain solver to do a linear perturbation analysis.
You should not use the enable/disable functionality. The separation between prestress and perturbation should be made using the linper() operator.
Regards,
Henrik
Hi Laurent,
You can do the analysis in version 4.4 too. It is just that you are a bit more on your own in setting up the analysis.
Essentially there are three things that you should pay attention to:
1. Enable geometric nonlinearity in at least the frequency domain analysis
2. Manually add the linper() operator to the harmonic perturbation loads (I guess that wold be the electric potential in your case).
3. Set up the frequency domain solver to do a linear perturbation analysis.
You should not use the enable/disable functionality. The separation between prestress and perturbation should be made using the linper() operator.
Regards,
Henrik
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Posted:
10 years ago
14.01.2015, 16:14 GMT-5
Hi Henrik,
Thank you for your help, it works when following the steps you mention in your reply.
However i have a question, what is the difference between enabling the geometric nonlinearity and adding a moving mesh node ?
Thank you
Hi Henrik,
Thank you for your help, it works when following the steps you mention in your reply.
However i have a question, what is the difference between enabling the geometric nonlinearity and adding a moving mesh node ?
Thank you
Henrik Sönnerlind
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Posted:
10 years ago
16.01.2015, 02:45 GMT-5
However i have a question, what is the difference between enabling the geometric nonlinearity and adding a moving mesh node ?
These are different things. Typically you would use a moving mesh to model a non-solid domain with a changing shape, such as the fluid domain in a fluid-structure interaction problem. The boundary of a moving mesh domain is then controlled by an adjacent Solid Mechanics domain. Solid Mechanics is formulated on the 'Material Frame' (search for it in the documentation).
Regards,
Henrik
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However i have a question, what is the difference between enabling the geometric nonlinearity and adding a moving mesh node ?
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These are different things. Typically you would use a moving mesh to model a non-solid domain with a changing shape, such as the fluid domain in a fluid-structure interaction problem. The boundary of a moving mesh domain is then controlled by an adjacent Solid Mechanics domain. Solid Mechanics is formulated on the 'Material Frame' (search for it in the documentation).
Regards,
Henrik
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Posted:
9 years ago
05.08.2015, 05:11 GMT-4
Hi Laurent
I am trying to perform pre-stressed analysis on piezoelectric model as well - would it be possible to see your model settings ? My results are strange with the settings I use now and I am not sure if they are correct.
thanks
Oskar
Hi Laurent
I am trying to perform pre-stressed analysis on piezoelectric model as well - would it be possible to see your model settings ? My results are strange with the settings I use now and I am not sure if they are correct.
thanks
Oskar