Henrik Sönnerlind
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Posted:
4 years ago
10.08.2020, 03:56 GMT-4
One possibility is that the input Search for eigenfrequencies around has a value that is far from the expected values.
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Henrik Sönnerlind
COMSOL
One possibility is that the input *Search for eigenfrequencies around* has a value that is far from the expected values.
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Posted:
4 years ago
10.08.2020, 12:02 GMT-4
Thank you very much Henrik for your kind reply.
I inserted the "eigenfrequencies around value" that I expected because i experimentally evaluated.
But it seems to doesn t work.
does it is possible, according your experience, that itis caused by the bad mesh?
Or there is something I miss?
Thank you very much for the help.
Thank you very much Henrik for your kind reply.
I inserted the "eigenfrequencies around value" that I expected because i experimentally evaluated.
But it seems to doesn t work.
does it is possible, according your experience, that itis caused by the bad mesh?
Or there is something I miss?
Thank you very much for the help.
Henrik Sönnerlind
COMSOL Employee
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Posted:
4 years ago
11.08.2020, 17:56 GMT-4
Usually, eigenvalues and corresponding modes (at least the lower ones) are not that sensitive to the mesh, so I doubt that the mesh quality is the culprit here. Can there be a difference betwen the real world boundary conditions, and those in the FE model?
Have you measured more than one natural frequnecy, and if so, do the others match?
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Henrik Sönnerlind
COMSOL
Usually, eigenvalues and corresponding modes (at least the lower ones) are not that sensitive to the mesh, so I doubt that the mesh quality is the culprit here. Can there be a difference betwen the real world boundary conditions, and those in the FE model?
Have you measured more than one natural frequnecy, and if so, do the others match?
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Posted:
4 years ago
23.08.2020, 12:00 GMT-4
Hi Henrik and thank you very much for your replay.
Unfortunatelly, I have experimentally evaluated only the first one because I was interested in the "lower" frequency response of the sensor and, actually I am can not do further measurements.
Probably you are right, the èroblem is in the boundary conditions. Actually, the structure is very simple, it is a cantilever with a fixed end and the rest free to move. There is a piezo layer betwen two other layer to constitute the sandwich structure, I did not used particular boundary constrain.
Can you have some suggestions?
Thank you very much again.
Hi Henrik and thank you very much for your replay.
Unfortunatelly, I have experimentally evaluated only the first one because I was interested in the "lower" frequency response of the sensor and, actually I am can not do further measurements.
Probably you are right, the èroblem is in the boundary conditions. Actually, the structure is very simple, it is a cantilever with a fixed end and the rest free to move. There is a piezo layer betwen two other layer to constitute the sandwich structure, I did not used particular boundary constrain.
Can you have some suggestions?
Thank you very much again.
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Posted:
4 years ago
23.08.2020, 12:30 GMT-4
Without getting into details- that means, details about the experiment and looking at the .mph file...it is impossible to do more than make guesses. Probably a long talk with someone more experienced...who will ask lots of questions about what and how you are doing things...will eventually lead to a solution.
But...having done a lot of experiments myself, some on similar structures...I can say the following: When experiment and theory do not agree, one or both are wrong.
Without getting into details- that means, details about the experiment and looking at the .mph file...it is impossible to do more than make guesses. Probably a long talk with someone more experienced...who will ask lots of questions about what and how you are doing things...will eventually lead to a solution.
But...having done a lot of experiments myself, some on similar structures...I can say the following: When experiment and theory do not agree, one or both are wrong.
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Posted:
4 years ago
23.08.2020, 12:33 GMT-4
Yes, i agree with you Dave and, unfortunatelly I really think that I am wrong in the FE simulation!!!
Yes, i agree with you Dave and, unfortunatelly I really think that I am wrong in the FE simulation!!!