Ivar KJELBERG
COMSOL Multiphysics(r) fan, retired, former "Senior Expert" at CSEM SA (CH)
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Posted:
1 decade ago
15.02.2011, 02:20 GMT-5
Hi
when I run it I get far more at the output (I'm using 4.1.0.154 and I remeshed in normal "physics induced default mesh"
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Good luck
Ivar
Hi
when I run it I get far more at the output (I'm using 4.1.0.154 and I remeshed in normal "physics induced default mesh"
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Good luck
Ivar
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Posted:
1 decade ago
15.02.2011, 04:20 GMT-5
HI
The same results I got please note that temperature unit in keliven , so the inlet tempearute is 673K and the output in the range of 673K to 800K. I think something wrong
By the way how I can calculate the output temperature with comsol . I tried to intergatea the area but the reuslt was wrong
HI
The same results I got please note that temperature unit in keliven , so the inlet tempearute is 673K and the output in the range of 673K to 800K. I think something wrong
By the way how I can calculate the output temperature with comsol . I tried to intergatea the area but the reuslt was wrong
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Posted:
1 decade ago
15.02.2011, 08:51 GMT-5
Hi
I am sorry to ask this question agian but I really need some help
Fluid temperature at the exit is slightly change which l is annoying me . I am feeling there is a problem when the heat transfer from the solid domain to the fluid domain
Hi
I am sorry to ask this question agian but I really need some help
Fluid temperature at the exit is slightly change which l is annoying me . I am feeling there is a problem when the heat transfer from the solid domain to the fluid domain
Ivar KJELBERG
COMSOL Multiphysics(r) fan, retired, former "Senior Expert" at CSEM SA (CH)
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Posted:
1 decade ago
15.02.2011, 09:26 GMT-5
Hi
I do not have enough free time to reply just now, but clearly from the profile that I got by using a cut line on the outlet you have a steep gradient, so your fluid has a low heat conduction, or a high speed ;)
to calculate the average temperature you use the average operator on the outlet surface, but I beleive the T proile is more interesting. You add a Data set by right clicking on the data set node
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Good luck
Ivar
Hi
I do not have enough free time to reply just now, but clearly from the profile that I got by using a cut line on the outlet you have a steep gradient, so your fluid has a low heat conduction, or a high speed ;)
to calculate the average temperature you use the average operator on the outlet surface, but I beleive the T proile is more interesting. You add a Data set by right clicking on the data set node
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Good luck
Ivar
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Posted:
1 decade ago
17.02.2011, 11:37 GMT-5
I am sorry to bring it up again, but I really do need help
I tried what you said and I reduced the inlet velocity to 0.5 m/s but this did solve the problem. The thermal conductivity for the fluid is around 0.4 W/(K•m). which not that bad.
I just want to make sure that am I using the right boundary condition
Non-isothermal Turbulent flow
Boundary conditions for heat transfer
Temperature 400C
Outflow
Heat flux 1400000w/m2 (at the upper area)
Boundary conditions for Turbulent flow
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nlet: velocity, Normal inflow velocity 0.5 m/s
Outlet: Pressure, no viscous stress
I am sorry to bring it up again, but I really do need help
I tried what you said and I reduced the inlet velocity to 0.5 m/s but this did solve the problem. The thermal conductivity for the fluid is around 0.4 W/(K•m). which not that bad.
I just want to make sure that am I using the right boundary condition
Non-isothermal Turbulent flow
Boundary conditions for heat transfer
Temperature 400C
Outflow
Heat flux 1400000w/m2 (at the upper area)
Boundary conditions for Turbulent flow
I
nlet: velocity, Normal inflow velocity 0.5 m/s
Outlet: Pressure, no viscous stress
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Posted:
1 decade ago
17.02.2011, 12:45 GMT-5
Here is a suggestion. Use engineering correlations to calculate expected heat transfer coefficient based on Re & Pr numbers and then solve a simple problem that is similar enough to your situation (e.g. with constant wall temperature of 1600 C ) analytically. You might be surprised to find out that your liquid temperature increase really is small. Be careful to make the distinction between local and mass flow averaged fluid temperatures.
hope this helps
Ozgur
Here is a suggestion. Use engineering correlations to calculate expected heat transfer coefficient based on Re & Pr numbers and then solve a simple problem that is similar enough to your situation (e.g. with constant wall temperature of 1600 C ) analytically. You might be surprised to find out that your liquid temperature increase really is small. Be careful to make the distinction between local and mass flow averaged fluid temperatures.
hope this helps
Ozgur
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Posted:
1 decade ago
28.02.2011, 12:21 GMT-5
"Here is a suggestion. Use engineering correlations to calculate expected heat transfer coefficient based on Re & Pr numbers and then solve a simple problem that is similar enough to your situation (e.g. with constant wall temperature of 1600 C ) analytically. You might be surprised to find out that your liquid temperature increase really is small. Be careful to make the distinction between local and mass flow averaged fluid temperatures.
hope this helps
Ozgur"
Hi - I would agree with this approach and if you need assistance running these numbers please contact me through our website
We're working on a live calculator for our website but in the meantime I'd be happy to help you out
Michael Bates
Technical Director
Duratherm Heat Transfer Fluids
"Here is a suggestion. Use engineering correlations to calculate expected heat transfer coefficient based on Re & Pr numbers and then solve a simple problem that is similar enough to your situation (e.g. with constant wall temperature of 1600 C ) analytically. You might be surprised to find out that your liquid temperature increase really is small. Be careful to make the distinction between local and mass flow averaged fluid temperatures.
hope this helps
Ozgur"
Hi - I would agree with this approach and if you need assistance running these numbers please contact me through our website
We're working on a live calculator for our website but in the meantime I'd be happy to help you out
Michael Bates
Technical Director
Duratherm Heat Transfer Fluids
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Posted:
1 decade ago
23.05.2011, 11:08 GMT-4
Hello, just thought I'd update... our calculator is now online if anyone is looking for some quick heat transfer coefficient numbers, including, pressure drops, Reynolds, Prandtl and Nusselt
www.heat-transfer-fluid.com/resources/heat-transfer-coefficient-calculator.php
Michael Bates
Technical Director
Duratherm Heat Transfer Fluids
www.heat-transfer-fluid.com
Hello, just thought I'd update... our calculator is now online if anyone is looking for some quick heat transfer coefficient numbers, including, pressure drops, Reynolds, Prandtl and Nusselt
http://www.heat-transfer-fluid.com/resources/heat-transfer-coefficient-calculator.php
Michael Bates
Technical Director
Duratherm Heat Transfer Fluids
www.heat-transfer-fluid.com